Histiocytoma Pasha's Story

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Extracts taken from a discussion in the Affie Lovers forum where Chris had a great deal of support from the members (170 posts) Sadly the final outcome was not good for this poor boy.

Hazel-14-08-05 - Chris has got one of her last litter back, Pasha, and a very poorly boy he is. He has come home with a type of tumours called Histiocytoma, which has two forms, one is more aggressive (and usually fatal) than the other as it goes to the major organs. Until it moves now in Pasha's case, a true diagnosis of which form he has cannot be certain. The other form can regress and even burn itself out and is the more common in dogs of his age. Lets all hope and pray that Pasha's is the latter type. For those of us who haven't seen this before Chris has sent us this photo of Pasha's hind leg. Good luck Chris and I am so glad you have Pasha home again with you where he is getting the treatment he so badly needs. All so very worrying for you and Les.

Chris - 14-08-05 - Thanks to everyone for caring so much, I've had quite a few emails and it's nice to know that you have support, it does help a lot. We're really going against what the vet has said, she wanted to put him to sleep there and then as she thought he only had weeks but with the research we'd done on the net that's says it's difficult to tell the 2 apart and the fact that I think the infection has a lot to do with the results we have to have hope for a future for him. Somehow what we were reading and what she was saying didn't "fit" but I didn't know whether I was just seeing what I wanted to see but after speaking to Sylvia in depth about his problems she too feels the same and gave us a twinkle of hope for the future. She said that if it was the more aggressive form we would have to be very, very unlucky indeed because it is so rare, especially in a dog just 2 years old. All we have to do is watch him and hope for the future all I know is that if his time comes we'll be there for him, we were there when he was brought into this world and we'll be there for him when he leaves us whenever that may be. At the moment he is quiet bright in his eyes which I think in Affies is a real indication of how they are feeling. He is very sore and he is sleeping a lot which is not such a bad thing because he needs all his energy but the steroids are making it less painful for him. He still wants to play but he has to be let out under supervision because I'm scared one of the others will catch it and hurt him. At the moment he is on steroids and antibiotics and also homeopathic remedies to rid his body of the toxins and also sooth the infection and all these together seem to be having he desired effect but it's all a waiting game, we just have to wait and pray that things go the way we want them too. He is such a good boy, not a bad bone in his body despite the fact he is hurting so. Breaks my heart to see him this way but we'll do our very best for him come what may.

Chris - 15-08-05 - I hardly slept since I heard about it last Tuesday and don't know how I managed to stay awake on the way home from Cambridge as it was a 5 hour drive there and even longer on the way back because of the weather and traffic, think it must have been pure adrenalin. What we are hoping for is that the big lump is infection and not a solid mass because the little red tumours and lumps you can see fit the description of the one that can burn itself out. I don't want to be too optimistic but the more the big lump goes down or looks less "angry" the more it looks like the other form, everything crossed

Chris - 15-08-05 - Here is another more happy picture taken today of Pasha with his brother, I look a bit rough but that's only to be expected. Pasha is the one on the left.

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Gerry -15-08-05 - Chris, My thoughts are with Pasha. Worrying times, but I know you will do the best for him, and he will be loved. Our Tiger (Popinjay) had something similar, and he lived out the rest of his life on the settee!

Chris - 15-08-05 - Hi Gerry, Many thanks for your support, the well wishes and prayers from all those who have contacted us are very much appreciated. We hope that we can resolve this and he will live a long life. If you don't mind me asking how did you treat your popinjay, was it operated on or treated with drugs?

Gerry - 15-08-05 - Chris, Tiger had a Squamous Cell Carcinoma of his foreleg. It started in his dewclaw area. Although not malignant it grew, and was always an open bleeding wound, and he was not very mobile. Obviously we took his coat off. He had no surgery, and I dressed the site twice a day, using anti-irritant salve from the vet, non-stick pads and that red cling bandage. The vet said there was no treatment other than amputation. However, Cathy Webb in Salukis had a dog with the same problem, and suggested Shark Cartilage. Tiger was on that until he died naturally at 12, about 2 years later. At the time shark cartilage was not available in UK, and we imported it from the US. After a while the cartilage became available in health food shops over here, it is made in Australia. There is a book, "Sharks do not get Cancer" which is worth a read. There is no proof that it has any effect on cancers, but we believe the quality of his life was better taking it. It certainly did no harm. You get extra close to a sick Afghan. They shout and scream over silly little things, but the serious stuff seems to make them so dignified and trusting.

Hazel - 15-08-05 - Gerry mentioned Shark Cartiledge, I had forgotten about that, Marcelle sent me some to put Peanut on when she was so very ill with all her tumours, I like Gerry am not sure if it did a lot of good but that and the Prenisolone kept her going a whole year longer than any vet expected her to go on for and she was happy, so it very well may have done some good.

Sylvia - 15-08-05 - Chris we have spoken several times & I just cannot express how I feel for you & PASHA but lets keep everything X and at the least YOU are doing the very best for him under the circumstances.....Life can be & frequently IS very unfair, but as I wrote just recently, I think this comment from the Onocologist at the AHT, who we talked about, says so much about the path we frequently have to travel with these sick dogs. SO OFTEN IT IS THE JOURNEY AND NOT ALWAYS THE DESTINATION THAT MATTERS TO US MOST OF ALL.
I only had 7 months with FREDDIE post surgery but they were 7 VERY SPECIAL, QUALITY TIME MONTHS, & this is VERY relevant.

Cathy - 16-08-05 - Poor Pasha and poor you having to go through this with him. He is very young though, which may just work in his favour. I know it may not be very relevant in this case, but my little ESS Roxanne, has been on borrowed time since she was 15mths old, with very severe heart and lung disease and bi-lateral HD. I was told she would not see 3yrs, then 5 then 8 etc., etc. She has just had her 13th birthday and although I don't think she has very much time left now, she has certainly shown the vets (and me) what a fighting spirit and lots of TLC can achieve. Stay optimistic, its the only way to cope when life deals you a rotten hand.

Chris - 16-08-05 - Hi Moira, Thank you for your good wishes. As you say he is bright enough in himself and would play quite rough if we would let him so we'll keep watching what he is telling us. I remember Ray when he was ill some time ago and no one knew what it was only that it was likely to be some kind of toxicity to something. He had a raging temperature and this lasted about 4 days despite the efforts of the vet. I kept him at home hydrating him and with a water soaked flannel on his head held on by his snood. He still kept eating but one night I just felt sure he would be gone in the morning as he lay beside us. Next morning he surprised us all by running into the lounge and chasing a squirrel though the window that was pinching the bird nuts and then we knew he was on his way to recovery. As you say they have hidden strengths these hounds so we'll keep fighting for him.

Chris - 17-08-05 - The main bulk of swelling, as we had hoped, looks like it was an infection but still not counting our chickens just yet. Spoke to the vet at Cambridge the other day and she said for the first time that it was in fact badly infected, not helped by the fact that there was evidence of urine scald. This is probably why, at the time, she thought it better to put him to sleep because it just wasn't getting treated and stood no chance at all at getting better. We were so lucky to catch it I think because it was moving up his leg. It doesn't seem so hot now either and his pee is smelling somewhat sweeter, not surprising really the amount of homeopathic de-toxing stuff he is getting!!
The vet at Cambridge is on Maternity leave shortly so she's going to try to find someone nearer to us to treat him. She thinks it might be worth while trying something else if he is improving so much. I have emailed her to ask if she thinks it would be worth retesting him to make sure which form it was because obviously the infection would have had an impact on the results, still waiting a reply on that one. The more the swelling goes down the more defined the individual tumours are which says to us it is the form that can burn itself out but we'll have to see, everything crossed!!
As the swelling is going down the tumours are becoming more pronounced and obviously more tender so cleaning it is VERY stressful for all of us, he cries out so much and I really could do with a Brandy when it's all over and I have tears in my eyes even thinking about it!! The rest of the "family" join in with him, it's really so, so upsetting but it has to be done, just hope he doesn't hate me at the end of it but he is such a forgiving soul. We still have a long, long way to go but at least we are moving in the right direction. Will keep you posted and let you know what our "old" vet in Cardiff says when I see him next week.

Chris - 22-08-05 - Pasha is back at the vets tomorrow, please keep everything crossed for him (he is clipped down now) He behaved just like a puppy chasing around the garden then thought after "ouch" but it was so nice to see him so happy, he had a "smile" on his face you could tell :-)) It is also lots more practical for him and helps him to stay clean and dry, especially when it's been raining like it has today and also we can see what's happening. We've decided whatever they say tomorrow he'll be coming back home with us, he is happy and eating and not in any pain so that's the main thing. Will let you know as soon as I get home

Sylvia - 22-08-05 - Hi Chris, is it tomorrow that you will be going down to Swindon to Sara? I will be thinking of you. Write all your questions down on paper BEFORE you go and then you will be sure not to FORGET anything with so much going on with everything

Chris - 22-08-05 - Hi Sylvia. Yes, it's Tuesday. I sent you a mail re his homeopathic remedies and his anaesthetic did you get it? Will try and ring you. Thank you for all your help

Hazel - 23-08-05 - I know we will all be thinking of Chris and Pasha today and praying for some more hopeful news. Meantime Chris has sent us the latest photo of Pasha's leg. The swelling has gone down considerably which is good but the tumours appear to be bigger and ulcerating, lets hope this is a case of them getting worse before burning themselves out. Fingers tightly crossed everyone.

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Chris - 23-08-05 - Back home now with a very sleepy boy, just wanted to pick him up like I used to when he was a babe and make it all better. I cried most of the way home again, don't do me any good these vet visits!
They did another scan and another biopsy on his glands but think it was a deeper one this time as they gave him some pain killers for after. The vet said the tumours looked very aggressive and that in young dogs they tend to be more aggressive, older dogs seem to fair better.
The vet said that his glands are a little more swollen than they were before and also his spleen is swollen. She seems to think it'll take a miracle for it to regress and really I think I know this but you need hope and when I hear it it really brings it home to us what we're asking for but without hope you have nothing.
The vet in Cambridge had suggested to the vet in Swindon some chemotherapy tablets to reduce the tumour. We had a long talk about it. Apparently it worked on one dog out of the 2 she tried it on in Cambridge but the vet in Swindon said that it is an aggressive tumour we are treating so the treatment has to also be aggressive and if it's what she thinks it is it won't be a cure only give him some time. The treatment is not without risks it can cause renal failure and also make them very ill when they take it. I asked whether that was the way we wanted to go or even the way we needed to go so could she post the tablets on to me once we had the new biopsy results? She said she couldn't post them because it was a hazardous and toxic substance and I was not to get it near anything else, not let anyone take it by mistake and I would have to wear gloves when I gave it to him so I didn't come into contact with it!!
I've been thinking about it all the way home, IF as she says it only buys us some time but in that time that he has extra he is ill or worse gets kidney failure where is the benefit? I just don't think I could place something THAT toxic in his mouth, it would be like asking me to poor bleach down his throat in the hopes that it might do some good!! She said the drug had its risks and it wasn't head and shoulders above the rest at treating any types of cancer really, vets just prescribed it when there was nothing else they could prescribe on the offchance it might be of some use.
Having thought a lot about it on the way home and ringing Les in floods of tears I think we won't be going down that road, he's comfortable at the moment on his steroids and his antibiotics without yet more chemicals and not just ordinary chemicals one's that could put his life in even more danger!! I think we just have to do the best for him and make sure he is comfortable and happy. Something just tells me that it needs to get worse before it gets better, I may be wrong but only time will tell. At the moment, despite the way it looks, it doesn't seem to bother him, it seems much more of an "inconvenience" for him more than anything else. We get the results back on the biopsy later on in the week so I'll let you know as soon as I hear anything. Thanks for being there for me everyone, much appreciated. We're hoping for a miracle but they can happen.

Sylvia - 24-08-05 - Chris I am so very sorry to read this. I am sure SARA GOULD would be VERY frank....BUT do seriously consider your views about the chemo, did SARA name the drug? was it IMURAN otherwise known as AZATHIOPRINE?.. MANY MANY dogs with AI conditions are on this medication, it sounds frightening and yes it is a toxic substance but then ALL drugs are toxic substances! Many do a lot of good even IF you may only be "Buying Time". dogs do NOT seem to suffer the serious side effects with chemotherapy medications that humans get this is why they frequently do so well... short term...Of course any vet prescribing such medicines MUST spell out all the PRECAUTIONS necessary in administering the tablets and storing of such drugs. I can send you some more info privately and also if you would like to talk with anyone who has had the experience in using such drugs. Of course the final decision must be YOURS. Given the prognosis you may reconsider if you have really got anything to lose by giving such medication a "try"? At the end of the day it is all about quality of life.

Chris - 24-08-05 - I was very, very emotional yesterday. He looked all vulnerable when he walked out of the vets but knew it was me standing in front of him and gave a little wag of his tail, he is such a brave, brave boy and I love him so much, it hurts so to see him like this. Yes, I told Sara we should wait to get the biopsy report back before making a decision. That should be back in 3 - 4 days

Chris - 24-08-05 - Thank you Lesley. The good thing is he doesn't know he's ill, just thinks his leg is a bit uncomfortable sometimes so that's a good thing and is what's keeping us going at the moment

Chris - 24-08-05 - I think she was very frank and that was the problem She said usually the type that regresses just has one or two tumours not multiple like in Pasha's case but I have seen pictures on the net of multiple ones which were the same type. I think as you advised we just have to treat the symptoms we're seeing and watch him to see how he is feeling. Trouble is if it is spreading we won't know what's happening inside which is the reason why they did another biopsy. I should get the results back in 3 - 5 days time.
I did ask Sara if she thought this tumour was AI related and she said no it's just something that happens in some dogs and some breeds seem to be genetically prone to it. Apparently they are currently doing studies into it at the moment at Cambridge. I don't think it was the drug you have mentioned. To be honest I've left the tablets in the van on the drive as I'm paranoid one of the other dogs might get hold of it!! I'll email the name to you. I think it was the gloves that did it! We won't make a decision without knowing more facts about the drug and talking to Sara about it again because it was all a bit upsetting yesterday. Thank you for all your help Sylvia.

Chris - 24-08-05 - Hi All, the name of the drug is LOMUSTINE. Any information or experiences about this drug that any of you may have had or know anyone who has had would be welcomed to enable us to make an "informed" decision about whether to go ahead and use it for Pasha should it become necessary

Chris - 24-08-05 - Thank you Nikki, we just have to hope don't we? Sylvia is doing some research on the drug for us and the more information on this we have then the easier it will be to make a desicion on which way to go should we need to. I've done a seperate thread requesting information that people might be able to find out about this should they know anyone or have friends that know someone who may have some experience of the effects of this drug

Chris - 25-08-05 - Today we had news from the vet, when I heard her voice at the end of the phone my heart sank ready to hear what I thought she was going to tell me. She said from the biopsy they took from his glands the other day there was no sign the cancer had spread!!!!!!! She aired on the side of caution and added it doesn't mean it's not there just the biopsy we took didn't show it. This news was really like winning the lottery for us, I flung my arms around him and sobbed with happiness. I know it might not stay this way forever but today it was the news I thought I wouldn't be hearing. It seems that whatever we are doing seems to be working in keeping it at bay, lets hope the brave boy carries on fighting it. We are no way out of the woods yet but one small bit of good news has done us the world of good on this emotional roller coaster we're on at the moment. Will keep you posted and thank you all for continuing to think about him and remember him in your prayers, I'm sure it's helping.

Chris - 25-08-05 - Extra special hugs given tonight! He really is a star and like you said we're trying to not let him know he's ill. He's a bit sore today because more of the tumours have blistered but what I'm hoping is that once this hopefully worse bit is over it'll get better. That's what we're hoping for anyway, everything crossed for him.

Chris - 27-08-05 - The first day after coming back from the vet it seemed more swollen and it was obviously sore. It was also his first "off" day for his steroids also so that didn't help. The next day he seemed uncomfortable until we bathed it and gave him his steroids and now he seems OK with it although keeps picking it up when he stands around probably because the tumours that are "ripening" are sore and itchy. He has about 14 small blister type tumours on the bottom part of the mass that look like they are going to burst. They're all getting more blister like and I'm sure when this bursts things are going to be messy. The original one that burst keeps bleeding on occasion but each time it seems to get smaller.
I think when the others burst that will be a trying time to see what happens whether they burn themselves out or what so for now we wait to see and try to make sure he's not hurting.
Anyway at the moment he is still comfortable and that's the main thing, if not a bid bored by all of it. Today is an "off" day so we'll have to keep an eye on how comfortable he is and what effect it has on the lumps. Hope to god he can manage without it but it seems a bit harsh to me to go a whole day without any, would make more sense to have it reduced to 2 or so? I have asked the vet and she seems happy with one day on one day off but if it makes life uncomfortable for him we'll have to change that.
Wish he could tell me if it's hurting then life would be more simpler. He would still play if we let him but the other day walking around he knocked it on a chair and it hurt a lot so he's being a bit more "restricted" at the moment so he's sleeping a lot which is not such a bad thing. Will keep you posted, thank you all for your support.

Hazel - 27-08-05 - Poor boy Chris, is he getting any new blisters or has the amount stayed the same? Here's hoping things start to improve before too long. Dogs don't really show they are in pain until it is really bad do they so perhaps it is bearable for him, I think you would know if it isn't. Hang on in there

Chris - 27-08-05 - He's got 3 little spots nearer the top of his leg that I noticed this morning so it's not looking too good at the moment. He seems a lot more comfortable on it today despite it being his "off" day but he isn't really leaving his weight on it for long. We've given him some more new herbal remedies to combat the adverse effects of the steroids, boost his imune system and also act as pain killers and these seem to be helping. He's been sleeping and dreaming and not being too restless so hopefully this tells us it's not too uncomfortable like it was on his first "off" day. As the day wears on we'll see how he goes on. He keeps trying to lay on his back as Affies do but can't quite make it bless him. It is hard because I don't want him to hurt so I'm keeping my eyes on his every move and mood at the moment. I just hope that I'm doing the right thing for him and not prolonging the inevitable for all the wrong reasons. I worry about him a lot, if only I had a crystal ball?

Chris - 29-08-05 - Hi Marcelle, Thank you. He's not looking too good at the moment to be honest, the tumours have burst and he's quite sore. Very trying time this as I'm sure it's a turning point but not sure in which direction

Marcelle 29-08-05 - Hi Chris, I will keep all crossed for you all! He must be so sore, I can only imagine what bursting tumours look like! I truly hope he pulls through all this Chris - and that he is turning in the right direction. He obviously has the will to get better, and there are enough people willing him on in their thoughts too. Is there anything soothing that can be put on his sores to make them less painful for him? Or is all treatment coming from the inside at the mo? There is a very sothing aloe vera product in a spray from Forever Living. When Maggie had her mammary strip, it was the only thing that stopped her wound hurting. If you like I can send you the bottle I have? The other thing is 'colloidal silver'. It was used as an antibiotic before antibiotics were around. It can be given orally or externally (eyes, wounds, ulcerated skin etc) - I have some of that too if you'd like to give it a try? It won't hurt put it that way! Let me know.

Chris - 29-08-05 - Hi Marcelle, Thank you, we had been looking for something to spray onto the wound and like you say can't hurt. I'd also looked at the collodial Silver but not sure whether this would be OK with his steroids so will have to check up on that but if you could send it and the aloe in the meantime I would be grateful. The wound itself is being just kept clean as the vet says to keep it open to the air but clean. He gets it rinsed down in salt water twice a day and also in Calendula lotion which soothes it. Internally the conventional medicines he's getting are antibiotics and steroids, herbally he's getting parsley, raspberry leaf, (cleanses the system of toxins), Echinea, calendula complex, ginsing, (all boost the immune system), manuka honey (natural antiseptic) on his steroid "off" days he has additionally licorice and pau d'arco which is supposed to combat the side effects of the steroids. If you taste the manuka honey it actually tastes of antiseptic a bit like the smell of hospitals but in a taste, only slightly, not nasty at all, weird it smells like what it's supposed to be though? Things at the moment are not looking that good, he has what looks like it's another appearing on the inside of his front leg which is a totally different place. We've been talking about using the tablets as at this stage I don't think we have anything to lose by not trying them. I feel so helpless and exhausted. He keeps looking over to the hills and the fields and I keep telling him that when he gets better he'll be able to run in them with Sven and Saffy. He is still bright in his eyes but depressed because he is so sore, he still tries to run off though when you go to get him in from the garden! I hope beyond hope that this boy can recover or at least have a better quality of life if only for a short while but it gets harder to be more optimistic when you see him from day to day, I just don't want him to hurt Marcelle. We just have to take it one day at a time.

Marcelle 29-08-05 - Hi Chris, Colloidal silver won't interfere with any meds he's on. It can help stop external infections, the Aloe vera 'First Aid' lotion is a mixture of herbs to calm and soothe. Actually, it is reported that aloe vera has cured some cancers. It might be an idea to get some of the 'juice' from Forever Living, it certainly can't harm and may help. I really feel for you all, it must be both mentally and physically exhausting to watch such a young dog suffer like that. Can you e-mail me your home address please Chris, and I'll get it ready to post tomorrow! PS. I always keep some manuka honey in, it lasts for years in the fridge and has several uses.

Chris - 30-08-05 - Spoke to the vet today and she doesn't think that the tablets will be any good but said we can start them if we want to try everything possible for him. I asked her if the cancer was into the muscle in his rear leg but she said I don't think it can be because it would be a lot more painful for him and he wouldn't be able to walk on it. At the moment it seems to be just under the skin. It starts off like a tiny red spot then looks more like a zit, then a boil then a full blown boil ready to burst with a lump underneath it. She said his leg, so long as we can keep him comfortable probably looks worse than it's actually feeling and, as I said, she said it's better for it to burst out than in. She said it is very aggressive and I think she's just waiting for it to move to his organs. She also said that's it's ok for him to have the steroids every day rather than every other day. I thought this was a bit rough on him really and he did seem to fair better on them every day but I know these too can cause serious side effects. It's hard to know what to do for the best! I really feel for him poor boy, woke up this morning about 5am crying in my sleep. As long as we can keep him comfortable that's the main thing isn't it? Hes' still bright in his eyes bless him. I'm going to make an appointment with my old vet in Cardiff and see what he has to say, I just feel that we might need some fresh ideas and it can't hurt can it?

Marcelle 29-08-05 - Hi Chris, In Pasha's case I wouldn't worry too much about the effects of daily steroids - they may have side effects after long term use and at high doses, but as anything that works needs to be done at the moment I'd give them daily. I've had many a dog over the years needing long term steroid treatment (Some Terv lines have auto-immune problems), and side effects didn't start to appear for quite a while, and by then the dosage could be reduced! It is always a good idea to seek a second opinion, and it can't hurt. As long as Pasha has the will to go on, and isn't in terrible pain then there is always hope for him

Chris - 07-09-05 - Sorry I haven't kept you all updated recently but the family have been through the mill a bit with one of our other dogs and those of you who know will understand how we're feeling at the moment. Pasha's Lymph nodes at the top of his rear legs are now swollen and I was due to take him to the vet on Tuesday but decide not to because I knew what the vet was going to say. I received information from Sylvia about a vet in Harrow, London called John Carter who has developed a compound against cancer that has shown great success in dogs and is now being trialled not only for dogs but also for humans. We visited him yesterday after I called him in desperation on Monday. John is a lovely man and hoped he could help Pasha, he's now started treatment as part of his trials and although it may seem a bit like a miracle cure all I know is that just by a change of his diet to organic veggies and meats only he seems to be a lot more comfortable. It's early days yet and John may have arrived at the 11 3/4 hour so we have to hope he's started treatment in time because looking at how aggressive the cancer is looking it's his only hope. In himself he looks a lot more brighter and interested in the outside world again so at least we know he's not in pain

Phil1612 -07-09-05 - This vet is great we know someone with a cat that had a tumour on it's spine. They were told no hope by their vet now about 18 months on the cat is doing well so there is hope

Chris - 10-09-05 - Hi Phil, That's quite reassuring to hear! We just hope with Pasha that it's not gone too far, it does seem a mountain this "miracle" cure has to climb and it surely will be a miracle if it can be turned around at this stage but we live in hope and pray it will happen. All we know is he's more "comfortable", still a very ill boy but doesn't seem to be suffering which is the main concern. He is a bit depressed but in his position who wouldn't be? He is being a bit head strong though which is a good sign I think

Hazel -11-09-05 - I am so very sorry to have to tell you all that Pasha lost his brave fight today. Chris and Les had to let him have the rest that he badly needed now. They both thank everybody watching his progress throughout this hardest of times and thank everyone for their support when they really needed it. Chris and Les, you both did everything you possibly could and you have my deepest sympathy. God Bless Pasha

Dear Chris and Les, My deepest sympathy with the loss of Pasha........You did everything you could possibly do, Dear Pasha, run free and be happy and without pain for eternity.....Sad hugs. Gonny

I am so very, very sorry to hear this Hazel. As you say, Chris and Les have done everything possible for Pasha and I feel desperately sorry for them. Rest in peace Pasha. Lesley xx

I'm so sad on hearing of the passing of Pasha...he was such a sweet natured boy, and bore his illness so bravely...to Chris and Les I'm so sorry, you did everything possible for him, and you showed him unconditional love... words don't seem enough, but you know where I am .. Jo xx

I am so sorry to hear this very sad news. Sleep tight dear Pasha. Thinking of you Chris and Les. Love Tricia xxx

So sorry to hear of the passing of Pasha, words cant say how we feel for you here, and as everyone has already said you did the best you could and showed all the love in the world you could, doesn't get very easy and in such a short time from dear Otto, run free Pasha and Otto. Hugs Lianne and all @ Javidan

YOU GAVE PASHA LOVE THAT'S PLAIN TO SEE
YOU GAVE HIM HOPE AND SANCTUARY
WELL NEVER FORGET HIM IN HIS GLORY
TAKE GREAT PLEASURE NOW HE'S RUNNING FREE
JAN

To Chris and Les, my thoughts are with you at this saddest of times, I will echo what so many others have said and that is you did ALL in your power to help your precious boy, and while sadly there was nothing that could be done, that little man knew you where there for him, cherished and loved him and no matter what, he felt that love and devotion from you until the last moment.
That is the greatest thing you could do for him and he would know it. Run free dear Pasha, until you meet your family once more there are many other loved ones at the Bridge that will be your friend until then. Luv Nikki

Chris and Les, we are all feeling for you. We know you did all you could, and how hard it is to make that final decision at the right time. Thank you for sharing with us your love for your boy Pasha. love Gerry

Dear Chris and Les, It is with a very heavy heart I heard the news that Pasha had to be given peace. He put up such a brave fight, and you did all you possibly could to make the last few weeks of his life as happy as you could make them for him. He would have known, as only they do, that you were there for him, and you showed him the way forward. He runs free now, with Otto, and all at Kalaztra that have gone before him, and all the other bright stars that shine at Rainbow Bridge. Run free sweet boy, forever free from pain, until you are reunited once again. Love Mo

Much sympathy to Chris and Les on hearing this very sad news. God bless Pasha, run free, with love and thoughts from Rory and Shona

Dear Chris and Les, My heart goes out to you both. Love and best wishes, Cathy

Hi Hazel, I am so so sorry for Chris and Les. First Otto and now Pasha, both young dogs. I hope they both feel they did the best they could for both Affies. Love Ann

How sorry we are here to read about Pasha. Our love and thoughts are with Chris and Les at this time. Lots of Love Jackie Michael and all at Khorinyas

Dear Chris and Les, I am so very sorry to read this sad news, and believe me i know at this moment just how you feel, but you must try to take comfort in the fact that you have done all that you could for Pasha, and the fact that he knew you were there for him ,and that he was with people who loved and cared for him. Run free sweet boy. Love Jayne xx

Dear Chris and Les, Sorry to hear the news about Pasha and Otto, it never gets any easier but at least you got to know them and they loved you dearly. Kind Regards. Liz

Hi Chris & Les, Thinking of you at this sad time. Regards Marie

Please Pass on my sincere condolences at this very sad time to Chris and Les. They gave Pasha the dedication, love and hope he so rightly deserved, god bless them both, run free sweet boy xx Kindest Regards, Liz Gray (Sumakandi)

Jan , you have put this so well, I cant think of any-thing to add , except our thought are with Chris Les and the rest of the gang. Susan

so sorry chris and les, we all knew you tried so hard to keep him, he is at peace now. lyn

Please pass on my sympathies to Chris & Les. I can only imagine how they are feeling at this very sad time. My thoughts are with them. To lose one young dog is bad enough but two within such a short space of time must be devastating. Elizabeth

To Chris and Les, Our deepest Sympathy to you at this very sad time. Our thoughts are with you. Pat and Rob

Hi Chris and Les so sorry to hear the news about Pasha, love Pauline xxx

Oh this is so sad. It's such a shame that the treatment couldn't have worked for such a special little boy. My thoughts are with Chris and her family at this sad time. Diz xx

Chris & Les, 'm so sorry to hear about Pasha. You did all you could, and hope you find some solace in the fact that he was loved, and had all the TLC he could want. I really feel your pain, Love Marcelle

Chris & Les, We are so sorry you have lost Pasha, we are thinking of you both at this very sad time, Jackie & Alan

So very, very sorry Chris & Les to hear of your sad loss. The past few weeks must have been so difficult for you. It's hard enough when you lose an oldie, but when you lose them before their time, it's heartbreaking. My thoughts are with you both. June.

Chris - 14-09-05 - We would both like to thank you all for all your good wishes, prayers and support throughout the past weeks, we really feel like you all went through it with us and it did help us a lot. We would also like to thank Hazel, Jo and especially Sylvia for being at the end of the phone when we needed them most and for that we will remain eternally grateful. Grateful thanks also to John Carter for giving us hope when we knew in our hearts there was none and for making Pasha's final days more comfortable for him. The "events" of the past weeks have really made us feel like giving up showing or breeding Affies altogether but the support we've received has made us realise that dog people, when the chips are down, are the very best and we can't thank you all enough for the emails, messages and flowers, it means so much to us. With Pasha you could see who the "enemy" was and what we were facing but with Otto things were different and we'll be forever searching for the "answer" to that unanswerable question. He broke our hearts while he was here and we put so much energy into trying to make things "right" for him and it's a decision we NEVER want to have to face again. Understandably it's hurts a lot and will take a long time I'm sure to be able to talk about him so please understand.
To Pasha and Otto we love you both and we'll never forget you, you'll remain in our thoughts, in our hearts and in our dreams forever...........Run free our beautiful boys until we meet again. Thank you all. Love Chris and Les xx

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